“Part of being a survivor is you’ve walked in their shoes… I had 40 rounds of radiation, 6 months of chemo. I understand the devastation it causes families.”
Paul Schneider is the CEO of Susan G. Komen, the world’s largest nonprofit source of funding in the fight against breast cancer. Until her own breast cancer diagnosis in 2007, Paula Schneider was an accomplished executive in the fashion industry. It was her own experience facing cancer that inspired a career pivot to help in the fight against the deadly disease.
The Susan G. Komen foundation focuses on three pillars: medical research, legislative advocacy and community involvement. Raising awareness is central to the foundation’s mission so women can understand the preventative steps available in identifying signs or risk factors such as genetic predisposition. Because the pandemic has slowed routine doctor’s visits, there will inevitably be screenings and diagnoses delayed. "There are about 40-70% less cancer diagnoses right now. It means people aren’t getting the screenings they need to get a diagnosis… We will have a breast cancer boom after people are less afraid to go to their doctor."
Much work remains in closing the equity gap for black women who are 40% more likely to die from breast cancer. Susan G. Komen is leading campaigns in major cities using technology to help close the gap by identifying the key areas for improvement.
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SPEAKER
Paula Schneider
President & Chief Executive Officer
Susan G. Komen
MODERATOR
Anthony Scaramucci
Founder & Managing Partner
SkyBridge
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
John Darsie: (00:07)
Hello everyone and welcome back to SALT talks. My name is John Darsie. I'm the managing director of SALT, which is a global thought leadership forum and networking platform at the intersection of finance, technology, and public policy. SALT Talks are a digital interview series with leading investors, creators, and thinkers. And our goal on these SALT Talks is the same as our goal at our SALT conference series, which is to provide a window into the mind of subject matter experts, as well as provide a platform for what we think are big ideas that are shaping the future and we also love providing platforms for great causes as well. And when you can combine big ideas, big scientific ideas that are shaping the future with great causes, that's where we love to live at that intersection. So we're very excited today to bring you a SALT Talk on community impact with two great speakers, the first of which I will introduce to you now.
John Darsie: (01:00)
We're very excited to welcome Paula Schneider to SALT Talks. Paula is the president and chief executive officer of Susan G. Komen, the world's leading nonprofit source of funding for the fight against breast cancer, serving millions of patients in more than 60 countries, and helping to reduce the breast cancer mortality rate by 40% since 1989. Paula is responsible for the strategic direction and day-to-day operation of Komen's multi-million dollar research, community health, public policy advocacy, and global programs. For her it's not just business, it's personal because Paula herself is a breast cancer survivor and her own mother died of metastatic breast cancer.
John Darsie: (01:43)
She's been featured as a speaker at thought leadership forums, such as Fortune's most powerful women's summit, at the Milken Institutes Future of Health Summit. Paula was also named as one of Los Angeles business journals 500 most influential people for 2016 and garnered the National Association of Women's Business Owners Inspiration Award in 2010. Hosting today's talk is Anthony Scaramucci, the founder and managing partner at SkyBridge Capital, which is a global alternative investment firm. Anthony is also the chairman of SALT. And with that, I'll turn it over to Anthony for the interview.
Anthony Scaramucci: (02:21)
John, thank you. Paula, thank you so much for joining us.
Paula Schneider: (02:24)
My pleasure.
Anthony Scaramucci: (02:26)
I want to start right away with your experience with breast cancer and how it led you to this Susan G. Komen Foundation.
Paula Schneider: (02:36)
Yeah. There's sort of a silver lining because nobody wants to have breast cancer, but it did set the stage for my future endeavors. And I was in fashion my whole career and running some pretty major fashion organizations all throughout Los Angeles and global organizations. And I had breast cancer in 2007 and my mom had died of breast cancer shortly after I got it. And I have two daughters, so enough said. I made this massive pivot because I was actually getting an award for being one of the top female retailers in the country. And when I got up to give a speech, I was supposed to give a speech about empowerment and it was supposed to relate back to something that was empowering about retail and I had nothing. So I got up and I started to talk about being the most empowered when I was the least physically powerful when I had breast cancer.
Paula Schneider: (03:32)
You have to have some sort of grace that allows you to take help from people when you have breast cancer and that was one of those moments in life. I got up, I got my speech, I sat back down to a friend of mine who was CEO of another big company, and she had just received an email from some recruiters who were in Dallas that had asked if she knew of anyone that would be interested in becoming the CEO of Susan G. Komen. And so she asked me, "Would you ever consider doing that?" And I said, "Yes I would."
Paula Schneider: (04:01)
And literally that was on a Thursday, Friday I made the decision I was going to go forward. I was running a publicly traded company, on Monday I gave notice. I didn't even have an interview, but to me I just decided that I didn't care if I sold one more pair of jeans to Bloomingdale's. And if I wanted to do something that was really meaningful for me, I was going to have to start. So I did and it took a few months of discussions back and forth, but ultimately I started here and it's been the best move I could have ever made.
Anthony Scaramucci: (04:32)
It's an amazing story about purpose and finding your dream job.
Paula Schneider: (04:39)
Yep.
Anthony Scaramucci: (04:40)
I'll segue for a second. One of my closest friends, after 9/11, had retired from Goldman Sachs. 66 people died in 9/11. He went to volunteer for the company. I mean, obviously 3000 people died, but in this one specific company, Sandler O'Neill. And he went there to help rebuild that company and help the survivors and their families and it's been one of the most rewarding experiences of his life. And so congratulations on what you're doing, but can you tell us how your experience as a survivor has shaped your leadership at the Komen foundation?
Paula Schneider: (05:17)
Yeah. I think there's the part of being a survivor, like you walked in their shoes, right? Other than having metastatic disease, which thank God I don't. I have gone through all of the treatments and they were rough. I have gone through truly the year of living dangerously, I call it, which is I had a double mastectomy. I had, I think it was 40 rounds of radiation. I had chemo for six months and it was a very aggressive form of cancer. And so these are the things that once you've been through, you really understand what people are feeling and how to make a difference.
Paula Schneider: (05:56)
We are a patient centered organization. We are an advocacy organization for patients. So it's easier for me to be able to talk the talk and walk the walk because I know what people have gone through and I know what it means. And I know what the devastation that it causes to families. I'm one of the lucky ones that got out on the other side and hopefully the more work we do, the more opportunities we have for more families to stay intact and not lose their moms, and dads get breast cancer too. Men get breast cancer too. It's a far smaller percentage, but still, it happens. So for me, it's a personal thing of being able to bring my experience, my real life experience to the cause.
Anthony Scaramucci: (06:39)
Let's talk about the pandemic for a second. How has the pandemic changed treatment protocols, if any? How has it changed diagnostics, if any? Give us the landscape of operating in a pandemic for breast cancer patients and their therapeutic potential-
Paula Schneider: (07:02)
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci: (07:03)
Outcomes and so forth.
Paula Schneider: (07:04)
Yeah. If you think about it, cancer isn't canceled folks, just letting you know that right off. There's about 40 to 70% less cancer diagnoses going on right now. And that doesn't mean that it's because they don't exist. It means because people are not getting the screening that they need to be able to get a diagnosis. So for all the women that are out there that are listening to this or all of the gentlemen that are out there that have wives or girlfriends that are in the age of getting screenings, you got to put your big girl panties on and go because we will have a very big breast cancer boom after people are less afraid to go back to their doctors.
Paula Schneider: (07:46)
So it's really bad and it's not just breast cancer, it's all kinds of cancers and the screenings that it takes because to have that many people, almost half as many diagnosis, that just means that it'll be further along by the time it's diagnosed. So don't let yourself be in that position.
Anthony Scaramucci: (08:09)
Your plans over the next five years to grow and expand the foundation and the awareness that you guys are achieving in breast cancer, tell us a little bit about that, Paula because I think you are a great visionary.
Paula Schneider: (08:26)
Well these are tough times for any kind of philanthropic organization. Most philanthropic organizations have about, I'd say there's about 80% that have only six months of runway. So there will not be a lot of philanthropic organizations that survive the world of COVID. We're going to be on the other side of it. So it's looking out and seeing what we do. There's no one that would take the place of Komen because we've had our fingerprints on every major breakthrough that's ever happened. We sort of have three legs of the stool. We have research because nothing is going to cure cancer other than research. I usually say nothing cures cancer other than cash because cash pays for research, but nothing will cure cancer other than research. We have over 250 research projects that are going. Most of them are on metastasis because it's not the cancer that kills you, it's when it spreads.
Paula Schneider: (09:17)
So that's part one of our sort of three legged stool and we have some really, really interesting programs that we're working on there. And some of which we're actually putting together ourselves for our own Komen led research where we have a registry of patients that are giving us their genomic and their genetic information because we're sort of the trust broker and we have the ability to be able to get to the best scientists in the world. And there's a lot of information out there, but it's siloed and we are the ones that can share. And we can get that information to the top scientists in the world to do their jobs, to really figure out why does cancer metastasize? So that's a big part of what we're doing and that is actually using a lot of technology to do so by building this pretty massive patient registry that allows us to get that information.
Paula Schneider: (10:10)
That's just one part of what we call our Komen health cloud, which is the ability of following a patient all the way through their journey. And what you hope to find is that people will care about their breast health before they need help. Right? And going through the world of having breast cancer and understanding what that means, and this is where I can use my personal experience again, Anthony is I had one woman that helped me out through my journey. She was my patient navigator. And on average, if you will have breast cancer you have between 11 and 14 doctors. It's extremely complicated, even if you are educated and you have the funds and you have good insurance and a great support system, all the things that I had, it's still incredibly complicated.
Paula Schneider: (11:00)
So there was this woman that helped me and her name was Susan and she was my patient navigator that helped me navigate this really, really complex world and helped me figure out, as a thought leader, what is the best treatment plan for me, who are the best doctors that are out there, et cetera. And I want to replicate that for women that are going through the journey and that Komen can help them with in creating a patient navigation app that allows women, whether you're in the rural Mississippi or whether you're in New York City, to be able to sort of use it like telemed where you take this person with you into your doctor's office and you have the ability to have someone else listen to what's happening in your treatment schedule and what are the best things that you can do.
Paula Schneider: (11:44)
So I think that there's a lot of ways that we're using technology to help us through and it's easier to scale. So I think that that's one of the more important things for us is being able to use technology in our research, in our own research project because we could really crack the code. So that's one. And then the third part is, or the second part is advocacy. We have about 11 state led bills that have happened to improve women's health care that have been passed that are Komen led bills in the last 12 months. And there's a boatload to say about women in pink with pitchforks because we're really powerful and we bring it. So that's really exciting for us. And then the third is all of the work that we do in communities. And many of you have probably seen a walk or run because we bring over a million people together annually, or we did before the COVID pandemic, to do walks and runs, but we're still doing them virtually.
Paula Schneider: (12:43)
But in communities, we have a very big African-American health equity initiative that isn't just the flavor of the month for us. This is something that we have been working on for years and years, where, on average, if you're black and you get breast cancer versus me, you're 40% more likely to die. And that's just the average. And in some cities it goes up to like 75% and DC is one of them. We have DC, LA, we have Dallas, we have Philadelphia, Memphis is the highest of all. These are not little Podunk cities. These are major cities where there should be more opportunity to get people to the health care that exists. And if you did that, we'd probably decrease deaths by about 30%. So a lot of the work we do in community, we're using technology to enable our work in community. We do a lot in equities in our community work. So it's a pretty robust 360 degree view of how we help women with breast cancer.
John Darsie: (13:49)
So Susan jumping in here, you mentioned that-
Paula Schneider: (13:52)
Wait. It's Paula because it's Susan G. Komen. But people do that all the time.
John Darsie: (13:56)
I almost did that when I read the introduction and I stopped myself.
Paula Schneider: (13:59)
No worries.
John Darsie: (14:00)
Paula, but Susan obviously we hold in very-
Paula Schneider: (14:03)
My middle name, so that's helpful.
John Darsie: (14:05)
There you go.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:06)
Can we just stop for a second Paula?
Paula Schneider: (14:07)
Sure.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:08)
I am savoring the mistake, Mr. Perfect just made, okay? So can we just-
John Darsie: (14:13)
Oh man.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:13)
Allow that.
Paula Schneider: (14:14)
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:14)
To just [crosstalk 00:14:15].
Paula Schneider: (14:15)
The end of it now.
John Darsie: (14:17)
I know.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:17)
Over the internet. Let's just let it marinate, okay? It's like a symphony to me. Go ahead Darsie.
John Darsie: (14:22)
My webinar hosting career was taking off until that. I'm never going to live that [crosstalk 00:14:26] Yep.
Anthony Scaramucci: (14:28)
Well you [crosstalk 00:14:29] never forget that John Susan Darsie. Go ahead. Ask Paula a question.
John Darsie: (14:33)
I'm almost going to do it again. It's hard. Paula.
Paula Schneider: (14:36)
Yes.
John Darsie: (14:36)
You mentioned the stat about people of color, African-American women in particular, who I believe the stat is they're 40% more likely to die from breast cancer than white women. We see similar statistics as it relates to COVID-19. There's a variety of different factors that lead that to be the case. Why is the percentage of mortality so much higher with black women than it is for white women? And what is Komen doing, in addition to those technology initiatives you mentioned, to address sort of that inequality and allow people to get both the right prevention and the right treatment for their breast cancer?
Paula Schneider: (15:14)
Yeah. There's a lot of factors, right? There's first and foremost, it's where you live shouldn't determine whether you live. What you look like shouldn't determine whether you live. A lot of times in the African-American communities there's later diagnosis and the type of breast cancer can be much more difficult to cure. So there's that. Then there's the cultural implications of actually talking about your breasts. We did a whole thing on know your girls, right? And it was sort of a play on words because it's know these girls, it's know your sisterhood and your friends and you know all about your friends and your mothers and your aunties and all of those, but how well do you know these girls? And that was a really successful campaign for us in the African-American community because you have to be able to talk about it.
Paula Schneider: (16:08)
We have history tools that can look at your family history to see what are the challenges that your family might have. So it's looking at every aspect of why. And there's a lot of reasons that are very apparent and there's a lot of reasons that are underlying causes. When we have these 10 cities that we're working in, we've done it like a full blown landscape analysis as to the why. Because it's not just handing people vouchers for mammograms and then it all goes away because it doesn't. We tried that. But we had a pilot in Chicago that we helped fund that had looked at what's the story behind the story? Why is it not happening? Why are all these disparities happening?
Paula Schneider: (16:52)
And this was specifically that there was a challenge in reading mammograms correctly. And in some of the clinics in the south side of Chicago where they were actually lessening the amount of people that had breast cancer. They weren't reading them correctly. So we have to look at why. And then there's interventions that are specific interventions for each of these cities. It's very hard work. It's very expensive work, but it's work that actually saves lives on the ground every single day.
John Darsie: (17:27)
Yeah. And just an important note, and this is personal for me. My wife's grandfather actually died of breast cancer. So my wife's family on her dad's side have actually spent a lot of time and resources educating the public about male breast cancer as well. I don't know the statistics around it, but women are the majority of breast cancer cases.
Paula Schneider: (17:48)
97%-ish.
John Darsie: (17:49)
Yeah. Yeah. But male breast cancer is a real thing.
Paula Schneider: (17:54)
Yeah.
John Darsie: (17:54)
And it's important that people are educated around that too.
Paula Schneider: (17:57)
Your genetic information is really important. Like if you're Ashkenazi Jew, you have a one in, I think it's one in 40 to carry the BRCA gene mutation, which then means that you can pass it on to your children. And then they have a 50% chance of getting the BRCA gene mutation if you're one parent. So on your side, you may want to look into that. Any time that there's breast cancer in your family, you want to figure out the information, right? Because knowledge is power.
John Darsie: (18:28)
Yeah.
Paula Schneider: (18:29)
You can make all kinds of great decisions if you know. It's scary. I get it. When I go in for my MRIs that I have to get regularly and my heart pounds before I go because I know I don't want the outcome to be bad, but you know what? I'd rather know. And-
John Darsie: (18:44)
Yeah.
Paula Schneider: (18:44)
There's so much opportunity now to get genetic testing and to be able to tell if there's anything that you're predisposed to so that you can do something about it.
John Darsie: (18:54)
Yeah. I feel just anecdotally that I see a lot more people getting sort of preemptive mastectomies where having that knowledge allows you to get out in front of it and rather than living your life in fear that every time you go to the doctor you're going to get that bad news that there's a pretty significant percentage that you're going to get, you just go ahead and get out ahead of it and prevent yourself from having to live with that type of fear.
Paula Schneider: (19:17)
And it's significant. Like if you carry the BRCA gene mutations it could be up to 60 to 80% that you will get either breast or ovarian or both in your lifetime.
John Darsie: (19:26)
Right.
Paula Schneider: (19:28)
It's good for you to know that and if you do know that, then you have the opportunity to do something about it because there are a lot of prophylactic ... like Angelina Jolie was one that made a lot of news because she carries the gene and therefore she did the prophylactic mastectomy. I was really happy to see that because it brought it out into the public. I mean, I talk to women that are doing it all day long every day, but-
John Darsie: (19:53)
Right.
Paula Schneider: (19:54)
It is important. Who wants to live like that? And then you have to live scan to scan and be concerned about everything that you do and when is it going to hit me? And it's always better to take the prophylactic approach. No. That doesn't mean that everyone needs to go out and get a mastectomy if you carry the BRCA gene mutation. You have to talk to your doctors, but listen to the guidance and figure out what is the best opportunity for you?
John Darsie: (20:22)
Yeah. One last question before we get into how people can have help support Susan G. Komen. A big part of what you guys do is you're very effective at developing new partnership. Could you tell us what you've done in the past in terms of developing partnerships and what you plan to do going forward?
Paula Schneider: (20:38)
Yeah. There's a lot of ways that we do partnerships. I'll use a couple of examples here. We've worked really hard in being more transformational than transactional. Like I'm very happy if there's a partner out there that would like to give us a pin pad where you give money at the end of your transaction and that's wonderful because again, nothing's going to cure cancer other than cash. But what we did was we worked on a really wonderful partnership with Walgreens. And Walgreens has given us the money, the beginnings of the money, we still have to raise more, to build our patient registry.
Paula Schneider: (21:15)
And that's the patient registry where we're going to get 10,000 women to join and give us their genomic and genetic information and if we do that, that's a significant dataset and it allows us to be able to give that information and slice and dice it any way we want to the top scientists in the world that can actually help find a way to cure cancer from metastasizing. So we could crack the code. And again, because we are a trust broker and because we're neutral, all we care about, I mean, the only thing I care about is figuring out ways that my daughters are never going to get this and your wives and daughters are never going to get it. So if we can figure that out, then there's ways for us to work with the top people in the world to do that.
Paula Schneider: (22:01)
So that's like a transformational partnership that we have. The other partnerships, there's many partnerships that we have where we are working with different companies on our African-American health equity initiative. And it seems to resonate more now because of all the world that's happened in the last six months or year. But this is something that we've been working on for a long time. And I think that leaders need to stand up and they need to figure out ways that they can participate. And it's not like giving Juneteenth off. This can't be symbolic. If you're going to say you're doing something, do something. So we provide turnkey ways that organizations or businesses can help and really be effective in saving lives every single day. So our African-American health equity initiative is one of our biggest initiatives that we have going. And it's one that is gaining more and more notoriety and more strength because it's very sort of cutting edge, but helping people right now today. So anyone who wants to help with that, we got a place for you.
John Darsie: (23:09)
All right. Fantastic. You guys are like an API for philanthropy. I love that.
Paula Schneider: (23:16)
Exactly right.
Anthony Scaramucci: (23:16)
Excuse me. Before we talk about donations and how people can donate, I just have a question. I realized that neither of us are doctors, but when people call you and say, "Okay. Are there things I can do to prevent breast cancer, if possible, or is it a genetic disposition?" What does the foundation typically say to people as it relates to breast cancer prevention, if anything?
Paula Schneider: (23:42)
Well, I would say, going back my own diagnosis, I was in my 40s. That was before my mom had it for the first time. And I don't carry the BRCA gene mutation. And I an athlete and I eat healthy and all. I wasn't a candidate. But everyone is a candidate. The two things that make you a candidate are being a woman and getting older. So everyone is a candidate. Certainly, if you have a genetic mutation, there's predisposition for it, but it is kind of luck of the withdraw. Now we know a lot of alcohol isn't good, we know a lot of sugar isn't good, but there's very few things, like specific things, that you can do that will ward it off, if you will. So it really is just something that more research is going to have to be done so that we can understand what is the cause, what is the root cause, and how do we stop it? If you're out there, you're one in eight. And one in eight will get it in their lifetime.
Anthony Scaramucci: (24:42)
Right. And so how do we donate? What do we do to increase-
Paula Schneider: (24:47)
Well.
Anthony Scaramucci: (24:48)
The awareness. How do we get you more money? Because I do think you're right. The research obviously is the cure, but you need the money first. So how do we do that? How do we help?
Paula Schneider: (24:59)
If you just go to komen.org, there's always a donate button. It's very helpful for us. And know that the work that we do is really, really, really impactful. We've had our fingers, our fingerprints, if you will, in almost every major breakthrough that's ever happened in breast cancer for the last 35 years. I've been with the company three years. For me, it's the greatest role in the world and the most meaningful, but there are real life things that have come out of this. Like there was a study that we did that Komen was in invested in called the TAILORx study. And this is one that was led by one of our head doctors in our scientific advisory board at Stanford who's an amazing, amazing human being, where we'd looked at whether or not all women had to have chemotherapy for breast cancer.
Paula Schneider: (25:47)
And it was determined that there's about 70% of women that didn't need chemotherapy. Do you know what the difference now that people have that information? And you have to go to your doctor. It's not like you can determine you don't need chemotherapy. It's where you fall on a scale. And it's all very specific, but the fact that so many women now do not have to have chemotherapy. Because that's a bitch. I mean, it's like the hardest thing that I have ever done and I'm tough as nails. So it's one of those things that these are real life impact that happened because of the work that we do at Komen. We save lives every day and we make life more pleasant for those who have to go through this journey. So if you feel it and you care about any of the issues that we brought up, it's at komen.org, or if you are running a corporation or an organization that wants to partner with us, we have many, many ways to partner. We are in contact with 30 million people a year through our organization.
Paula Schneider: (26:49)
And that's a huge community that we have that we can bring.
Anthony Scaramucci: (26:55)
Anything else from you, Mr. Millennial who-
John Darsie: (26:58)
No.
Paula Schneider: (26:58)
What was your [crosstalk 00:26:58]
Anthony Scaramucci: (27:00)
Got Paula's name wrong.
John Darsie: (27:01)
Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Susan for [crosstalk 00:27:04]
Anthony Scaramucci: (27:04)
Oh my God. It's so good. It is so rich for me. I just have to tell you, it is literally like [crosstalk 00:27:11] Paula, I'm sorry. It's like eating a box of chocolates. I just got to tell you.
Paula Schneider: (27:15)
I get it.
Anthony Scaramucci: (27:15)
It's so rich for me. It's so enjoyable.
Paula Schneider: (27:18)
He's never going to hear the end of it.
Anthony Scaramucci: (27:20)
No. Never. Forget about it. I mean, he knows I have a 10 year shelf life on most things that he does that are improbable. [crosstalk 00:27:28] In all seriousness though, the work that you're doing is so inspiring to so many different people. And unfortunately, I would say just about everybody on this call, everybody that's listening to us, and everybody that will listen to us, unfortunately has been touched by either the scare of breast cancer or the unfortunate tragedy of breast cancer. So just encouraging everybody to give. Of course we will through our foundation and personally. I just want to thank you so much for all the great work that you're doing.
Paula Schneider: (28:02)
Yeah. And thanks for letting me talk about the work we do because I'm pretty sure that people have seen the women in pink and the walks and the runs and a lot of people think it stops there. It does. That's just the beginning. That's just one of the mechanisms that we have to bring our community together to raise money so that we can work on all of these aspects all at once. So appreciate the platform guys and really [crosstalk 00:28:23]
Anthony Scaramucci: (28:23)
You've done an amazing job of increasing awareness. And even though I brought baby Yoda with me today, you have crushed us on room raider as well, okay? So that must be your fashion trend.
Paula Schneider: (28:35)
No. This is not a ... like look. When I go like this, this is my actual office. I designed [inaudible 00:28:40]
Anthony Scaramucci: (28:40)
I love the wallpaper.
Paula Schneider: (28:42)
Thank you. Thank you.
Anthony Scaramucci: (28:43)
And the shutters. I mean, it's just a great look. And I love the fact that you're beating John Darsie in the room rating as well. I have to tell you-
Paula Schneider: (28:50)
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci: (28:51)
That's also [crosstalk 00:28:52]
Paula Schneider: (28:52)
Well that's not very hard if you look at his room rating.
John Darsie: (28:54)
I'm in a sterile office that nobody's here because of COVID.
Paula Schneider: (28:57)
Okay.
John Darsie: (28:57)
So it's not very hard to beat me, but at least she didn't have to donate money to the person in charge of room raider to get 10 out of 10 Anthony.
Anthony Scaramucci: (29:04)
That's true.
John Darsie: (29:05)
Just for the record.
Speaker 4: (29:06)
I am the Jared Kushner of room raider. I have to admit that, okay? The way he got into Harvard, I got my 10 out of 10. Okay. Just want to let everybody know. All right. So go ahead, Darsie.
John Darsie: (29:16)
Thank you everybody for tuning in to today's SALT Talk with Paula Schneider of the Susan G. Komen Foundation. A fantastic mission. Anthony and I are both married with daughters so it's a cause near and dear to our heart, especially given our family history and my wife's history with her grandfather who passed from male breast cancer as well. So thank you everybody for tuning in. Just by tuning in and learning more I think you're doing a great thing and spread the word about what Komen is doing. komen.org. As Paula mentioned, a lot of philanthropic organizations are struggling during the pandemic because of lack of engagement and physical events.
John Darsie: (29:54)
People are used to the Komen walks as well as people are struggling financially. So any help you can provide in this great mission is very much appreciated. Just a reminder, if you missed any part of this talk or any of our other talks, we have other talks focused on business as well as focused on philanthropy, including one coming up with Dr. Jonathan Simons of the Prostate Cancer Foundation. You can watch all of our past talks and sign up for all of our future talks at salt.org/talks.
John Darsie: (30:21)
And again, please spread the word. I say that after every episode, but this one is incredibly important that you spread the word about this talk and about this cause. And please follow us on social media. We're on Twitter, we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram. And with that, this is John Darsie from SALT signing off for today. We'll see you back here again soon on SALT Talks.